If the fork marks are very deep, you can fill them with wood filler putty first. Donna from Elk Grove CA. You do not need a primer with chalk paint. I love everything you’ve shared on this blog. It just needed time to cure. Your projects are gorgeous. I have to make sure we don’t live to regret this. How would you know that you reached to a good rough surface? Streaking.. Lots of it! I will come back and look at all of your great projects on your sidebar. Sometimes painted surfaces stay “tacky” for a while. That spotting is called – cratering or pinholing. I have been agonizing for weeks trying to decide how to pain my furniture black…… I sure hope mine comes out as nice as yours! Also, I did not know to use the sponge brush. Use the clear wax over it and it will look just like the stain, even better. I had so much country blue in my house in the 80’s and some of the 90’s that I think I ruined the color blue for my daughter. I love your square ottoman. I like the idea of the stain. If it does, you will have to sand it a little more as I show in my post before applying a new coat of stain. Best part was your pix and list of items needed. Follow the other directions in my post and you should be good. Apply another light coat of PolyShades if needed, making sure to use long light strokes. With some interesting pulls or knobs, it will look very chic. I'm looking for close up examples of painted headlight housings and reflectors. Do you wipe the stain off after brushing on? Do you do them at once or let it dry and then recoat? To do it, make sure to stir the container of Polyshades very well to make sure it is mixed throughly before using. It is thin which is why I prefer using it over paint. Or I heard of stenciling in a glossy black over a more matte finish on the front of the doors/drawers. Thank you! I tried to email you…hoped it worked! They are about 20 years old. Many of them contain waxes or varnish. Wait for at least 3 day to see if you see differences in the sheen, lessen. Little craters (perfect name) is what happens sometimes when using the stain or even paint sometimes over shiny and smooth finishes. Their look was so country and now it is so contemporary! It looks great. What a big difference in that room Diane! Thanks again for any advice on application over white paint. The grey primer helps so you only have to paint one or two coats of a dark color over it to get full coverage. Did you stain over the varnish? You can see how I painted my cabinets in this post – That is where I would experiment to see if you like how it will look. For shine – use a non-yellowing water based poly like Minwax Polycrylic or Zinseer Ultimate Polyurthane to seal it. I’m in love with polyshade now. If you can scratch it off after letting it cure for a few days, I would suggest you use a gripping primer – Glidden sells one that I have used called, Gripper or a primer made especially for painting melamine. Hi Colette – I stained the tables a few years ago and I am not sure if Minwax still makes the same formula stain I used. A couple of questions: Should I still rough up with sand paper and do I need to use a pre-stain before I apply the black stain, since it is an unfinished piece of wood?. Save flat paint for walls that are not going to be exposed to the wear and tear of a high-traffic area. The stain is sold in small cans for under $5 – you can test it out to see. I think it would work just fine. I will show you the room when it is completed – this is just a sneak peek. Milk paint is thiner than chalk paint, but you do have to have a binder mixed in it so it will stay on – otherwise it will chip off easily. Hi Christine – Yes you will still get the same results. The pieces look great! Hey Diane – 4 layers – makes any piece look painted. Sorry to hear that your finish got streaky. By far, I’m most pleased with the satin black sheen. I knew I wanted them to be black, but I wasn’t too hip on painting them black. Hi JM – I did not thin the stain. I would use Painter’s tape to mask off any areas you don’t want stain to get on. Is that true? Will the Polyshade cover the damaged section or will it need sanding? Get free advice and estimates from painters in your city. It’s the small table you painted black. I did this a few years ago and the formula may be different than what I used. You made it look so simple. Thanks! I haven’t done much furniture re-do cuz I usually LIKe the wood look. I will be making the wood a little darker, right now the wood is lighter than I would like. They have held up beautifully. I like the new finish being thin enough not to interfere with re-assembling them. Make sure to sand the surface a little and then stir the stain very well to get a smooth lasting finish. It is a dining room table. I hope this helps. Apply another light coat of stain. i don’t want people to sit on the furniture and get black residue on their shirts! Sanding with my random obit sander worked before but I really need a mirror smooth finish. Happy to send photos too! We did it, thanks to your inspiration. I am not sure how it would adhere to slick laminate even with sanding. To get the smoothest finish possible, use a flocked foam roller that has rounded ends. I just got a desk. Stir the stain well and dip once and then make long fluid strokes over the surface with the brush. Thanks! A quick going over with 100 grit sandpaper is all that is needed. Im not sure how far to sand it to, i bought sand paper of 120, due to 220 grit really didnt seem to do to much. It will help everyone :-), Would the stain technique work with a bathroom vanity. Should I Get a Pearl or Metallic Vehicle Wrap? This looks easy and fantastic! Im assuming it will take at least 8 hours for each coat to dry and maybe 5 days before the stain is really ready for use. We have the sofa and one end table taken apart, sanded, primed with Kilz, and one coat of black(ish) paint on the tops. TXRailRoadBandit73, Jan 5, 2017 #17. If you don’t want to clean up a brush, you can buy a high quality foam brush. If after it dries and you can scratch it off – you may have to sand to roughen up the painted surface more. If not any of these, I am not sure what else could have happened besides the wrong color getting in the can at the factory. I would wait until the stain is dry and run sandpaper over the surface and then clean and let it dry. Hi Matt – Do the Knotty Pine cabinets have polyurethane on them? I do have minwax 2 in 1, but really been hearing alot of bad reviews on it, so now i am skeptical about it, also i have a 2inch stain brush and hear not good things on a brush.. so i am so confused on what to use or how do it. If you go to Lowes or Home Depot you will see what they sell now in the stain/poly line and the colors available. Gloss Paint. I first used the Minwax prep for soft wood and then applied three coats of the Polyshade. question…I am doing the exact same thing with 2 end tables that I bought from craigslist I would love any suggestions for houses like mine – a 1951 “rambler” (ranch, sort of) with a long narrow living room and puny little 8-foot ceilings. You mentioned the piece has a lot of poly on it. hey everyone are the stock wheels matte or satin black. I bought off white Pottery Barn furniture many years ago to match my current bedroom, but I am moving out in a few months and I am looking to paint or stain this furniture black. If you use white primer, like KILZ over the knots and then paint the doors black that is a good thing. I would suggest using Minwax Fast-Drying Polyurethane. They are in perfect condition. Clean off the grit with a damp cloth until dust is gone. The decorating transformation is almost complete – now it’s time to add the homeowner’s personality to the rooms. Do you think this stain would work for that? It may take a few coats and light sanding in between each to get the finish dark and smooth. Thanks! I would never have the guts to tackle staining. (I would love it even more if it wasn’t oak at all.) If you can buy a small can, you can give it a test on an unconspicuous area and see. Yes, stain. I only mentioned paint thinner in the post since the stain is oil-based. I guess I just never looked. I am a “beginner” and just bought a little table at Goodwill to play around with. The best method is to load the roller with paint and apply the paint from top to bottom, one roller wide, and then reload the roller and apply the next strip of paint, overlapping the previous one slightly. Let it dry and go over with the fine grit sandpaper again. Her furniture didn’t have a shiny surface, so she just cleaned the furniture, let it dry, and applied the stain. Im never going to paint wood again. Live and learn!!! Thanks. I painted my table with a brush, looks great. Not sure if the Antique Walnut is or not. The next coat should fill the holes and create a smooth surface. I stubbled across your site when i had sanded two chairs and a table and was over it. Wow! Does the stain work on everyday use of chairs and have durability? thanks for linking up! You can roll it on and then use an angled brush on the rungs or chairs and table legs. If you shake, you will get bubbles and you don’t want them showing up in your finish. If you had the same stain that was originally used, then touching up would be the way to go. Satin Paint $250-$470 (8x12-foot bedroom, labor included) VS. Flat Paint $190-$390 (8x12-foot bedroom, labor included) Cost to use satin or flat paint for your walls varies greatly by region (and even by zip code). 4. You seem like a pro!!! I think they also recommend that in-between the poly coats you should lightly sand. If you try to fix it too soon , you run the risk of gumming up the surface. Paint is for walls. Pros: Matte and flat finishes cover imperfections in surface and application, making them a great choice for ceilings as well as walls in the bedroom, dining room and living room. Hi Shelly – Yes, you can stain an exterior door. But I am almost regretting doing it-the pieces are beautiful and the stain sucked! The flat is too boring for me. I love painting furniture black but I’m going to have to try black stain – it looks great! I will at least let you know my results. If you want your cabinets dark then you could do this to them. I have been at this for days, weeks, and months. I have dining table and six chairs and a hutch with drawers that I want to stain/paint a very dark brown close to black (espresso). Hi Sheena – You can stain over the grey paint with the Polyshades stain/poly mix, but not with regular wood stain. That's the only way I can think of describing it. Hi Chris – the black stain is perfect for furniture that you don’t want to add the thickness of paint. I like the fact that you can paint right over the existing finish. It would not work on the counter top though. Once that is on you can paint the piece black. I have 2 sets of wheels for my Maloo, gloss black SV rims, and satin black GTS rims. This way when you brush on the Polyshades it will not bring out any rough texture in the surface. Thanks, this was just what I wanted. I would LOVE to do this much faster step for the other two tables, but I want all 4 to match, obviously. Expect to pay anywhere from $20-$50 per gallon, or $40-$100 for the amount you need. I could not scrap any of it off. Brush it on as you would paint and let it dry. A friend of mine did it on her bedroom furniture and it worked great. I have two walnut dressers that are stained black–they are over 50 years old–and I was going to paint them black, but after seeing your results, I think I’ll restain them! Dip tip of brush into can and start from the center of your piece out to the edges using long light strokes. I did not wipe the stain off. Every so often even as you work, stir the stain in the can. If you live in a dry climate – less time. I love this idea! Rub a piece of fine to medium grit sandpaper over the surface of your piece. Let it dry and then protect with Minwax Polycrylic. Hi Janie – I would sand the moisture damage to smooth it out. I was thinking Krylon Fusion to better adhere to the plastic. I would LOVE to see the This End Up furniture! Without knowing exactly what the finish is I can’t be sure. It will be gone. I know I answered your question via email that you can use the Stain/Poly over paint successfully, but I asked my friend who did it over a two toned painted green and stained oak dresser. I was going to sand the paint off but that was taking to long. I would also make sure you have a high quality brush made for stain for your next coat. Hi Diane- I love you site. I stained the tables for a client of mine a few years ago. I wanted a sleeker look and knew I could achieve that with stain. I was wondering about black stain for an outdoor project and came across your sight. I will share this post. It is like a gel and won’t run or drip at all. Here is the page about furniture I painted with chalk paint: https://inmyownstyle.com/category/chalk-paint, So glad I found this post. I usually close the door in the room where the piece is to lessen the dust. What grit sandpaper did you use? I was worried that paint was going to be SO thick that the drawers wouldn’t close… now I’m excited to start the project! I just purchased a set of bookshelves that came out of an elementary school library. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Then you can apply the stain. You will be happy with the thinness of the stain once applied. Kindest regards, It could be that the air temp is too hot or humid for the stain to go on and dry correctly. You would still need to sand it a bit first to remove or at least rough up the glossy surface. Satin finish paints, while not glossy, do have more of a sheen than flat finish paints. I would love to see pictures of both satin … Matte is more flat with almost a texture to it. This way you can see if you are covering the surface completely and catch any drips before they dry. Put some on a piece of paper and let it dry. All furniture paint the need . Hi Nancy – There could be a few reasons why there are matte and glossy areas. The tables I did had a clear finish on them, too. It looks glossy, but just wanted to double check. The stain can streak on large flat areas – so if you have never used stain before, you may have to practice on a board first to get the staining technique down. googletag.cmd.push(function() { Then add or remove the stain. It needs a lot of touch ups for scratches. Hi Nay – I am not exactly sure what you are asking. My house has lots of windows, and I like that very much, but it does make furniture placement tricky. Make sure the surface is smooth and not tacky anywhere. It was not how I intended the piece to look, but it ended up looking even better. It will hold up longer if you take the corners and top of the table as well as the outside legs and orbital sand with heavy grit 80 sandpaper the top to take off any protetive coating that way the stain can penetrate the wood. Just wondering if you used it and if so, how did you apply it. I have both the polyshade in classic black and a black paint. Primer 1 costs between $10-$35. I am assuming several layers of black stain would be necessary to cover the white paint. Would this stain work for Pottery Barn furniture, or does it only work for wood surfaces? Sorry for all the questions. I started to paint the two armed dining room chairs this morning. I look forward to your response. I have never used the spray version, but think it would work just as well. Doesn't matter which set are fitted, it only takes 3 days of driving to go brown with the factory pads fitted. googletag.defineSlot('/107373944/InMyOwnStyle_Native', [[300, 250], [500, 250], [500, 350]], 'div-gpt-ad-1414094061888-0').addService(googletag.pubads()); What would you recommend on a small laminate honey oak vanity? Roll it on very thin. I have a very good China Chest and dinning table in a cherry finish. also, the project i originally got this for is to redo a coffee table. I am very disappointed with the finish. Thank you! Read the reviews on the GF line of products and you may end up changing your mind! The foam brush seemed to just soak up the stain and I had to kind of paint it on rather then one smooth struck. I am creating a nursery for my sister and I was wondering if this stain would be okay in a nursery and if so does it need to be completed a certain amount of time before it can be put into the nursery? Am on the fence about a shiny black vs flat black for my rig. Your words and pictures give me courage. To find out more about Chalk paint you can see my post – here – Black stain can be applied right over any existing finish. Newer pieces with a thin protective layer of poly over it are good candidates for the black stain, older pieces with layers of old poly or varnish are not. Before doing this, apply wood stain conditioner and let it sit for 5 mintues before applying the stain so it has a chance to soak in. Great blog. It works if you have the time to let it cure over paint. What do you think? 1. This is perfect! I like your post on this topic. Help!!! My semi flat black is very smooth as where the satin seems to have a very little texture to it. Thanks for telling us about the polyshade! I cant decide if I want to spray paint it or brush it. It does take time to cure  – a few days to a week or more depending on the humidity level before the finish is super durable. If you don’t, you can lightly sand the surface with 220 sandpaper, clean it off well and add one more thin coat of stain to the surface, stirring the can every few minutes. If you find your piece has gotten dust on it, you can try wiping the surface soen with a tack cloth. (I guess it depends on how long that finish has cured…?) It is a sticky cheesecloth that will pick up grit on a surface before you stain or paint. I think the stain black is better . They have a website where you might be able to find it. Flat Black The Rust-Oleum Stops Rust 1 qt. It is called Minwax Express Color and comes in a tube. I found your website and I was so happy! I’m wondering how thick it is. Depending on how deep it is, you may need to sand a bit harder to smooth it out. I’ m from Chile. Thanks! Up to 3 weeks. I usually just take a piece of fine grit sandpaper over the surface quickly to roughen up the surface before I apply the stain. Thank you for your great instruction! If you live in an area that is humid or hot you should wait a little longer as it may take days for the stain/sealer to dry and then cure. On the chair backs I used in on, the stain looked amazing and never came off, it wore just like paint. Great tutorial on using Minwax Polyshades. I was going to paint til I came across your blog. I am planning to do my bedroom furniture black. I want to stain my coffee table black and this might work. I also couldn’t get it to look black. I recommend you doing some research about the product online (as there are a HOST of problems with this product). One of the things I am considering is powder coating the stock 18" Sahara rims black. Do you think a stain like you used here would work on a same colored wood dining table? I would like to try this on that table. Ive read online that it will eventually peel and easily gets nicks. And then you have flat black that has no gloss at all. A coffee table, with stain and shine on it. or is it just because the light is hitting it directly so it is noticeable? Let dry. You can see how smooth the finish is… black stain is so much better than paint when you don’t want a “painted furniture” look. It will be too hard to cover with black. I did not know how to do this without getting that stain on the glass, so I put Vaseline on the windows. GRRRR! Black stain vs black paint on furniture – what I like about it: 1. My question is…is there anyway for the stain to work on this? 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